• Mac Miller’s Rep of Not Crediting Producers Opens Can of Worms
  • Mac Miller’s Rep of Not Crediting Producers Opens Can of Worms
  • Mac Miller’s Rep of Not Crediting Producers Opens Can of Worms

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Mac Miller’s Rep of Not Crediting Producers Opens Can of Worms

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Mac Miller "La La La La"

Earlier this week Lord Finesse filed a lawsuit against Mac Miller for using Finesse’s classic “Hip 2 Da Game” instrumental for his own single “Kool Aid & Frozen Pizza,” off Miller’s K.I.D.S. mixtape. Courthouse News Service broke the story explaining “This is a case about a teenage rapper—Mac Miller—copying the music from a song written, produced and performed by Lord Finesse, a hip hop legend, changing the title and then distributing it under his own name in order to launch his music career.” This statement couldn’t have been more spot on. It seems that even though Mac is claiming, “I made that record and video as nothing more than an 18 year old kid who wanted to rhyme and pay homage, no other intentions.” It doesn’t make much sense that he would decide to release the song on Datpiff without crediting the legendary producer on the tracklist. Although this is the most publicized display of Mac breaking the code, and taking advantage of producers, we felt like it was just for us to expose a few other instances of Mac using the five finger discount on beats.

September 8th, 2010: Outside of NYC venue S.O.B.’s, Mac Miller was approached by a small group of kids who had some questions to ask about the production on Mac’s hit single “La La La La.” When one of the kids asked Mac who created the beat, Mac seemed to have no answer for the kid, who was actually the real producer. “La La La La” ended up being one of Mac Miller’s most poplar songs, as of now having over 10 million views on YouTube. Check out the video below for the  encounter, and bear witness to how extremely shook Mac Miller is while handling the accusations.

This record of his history of beat jacking actually goes back even further then 2010, and before Mac’s mainstream success. Before he was Mac Miller young Malcolm McCormick called himself “Easy Mac” and was working with another emcee, Beedie, in a group called The Ill Spoken. The group was shopping for beats for their locally-anticipated mixtape. During the time, Wiz Khalifa had just released “Say Yeah” and was gaining an extreme amount of popularity. Mac, seeing his Taylor Allderdice High School alum doing so well, felt like he could follow in his footsteps…riding his coattails. For the upcoming mixtape the group decided to use a beat from producer Ben Bradley (member of NYC production duo Crakk Nicholson). Ben spoke to us about the events that transpired after the decision to work with Mac on some songs.

“I gave him roughly 30 beats. It was early in his career when I first met him and he was only rapping for six months but was already buying magazine placements. Sometime after I gave him the beats, I heard that they (The Ill Spoken) were going to use one of my beats as the single (“How Sick Am I“) for their mixtape. The single ended up being one of Mac’s first songs that received radio play and actually won a radio contest for what was then 106.7 WAMO. They won a chance to open up for Soulja Boy (who at the time was fresh off his second single “Donk”) as well as a (month or so) span of time where “How Sick Am I” was played regularly. I think it definitely helped him push his career forward. They originally didn’t give me any credit for the production (online or radio), until they put the tape (How High) on iTunes a long while later. Even though they credited me on the tracklist, I still haven’t received any loot for my work. I have no resentment towards him personally, but think he’s wrong for doing this to me, let alone a legend like Finesse. I just know him as a young kid from a really rich neighborhood.”

It seems as though we have a classic case of someone who can’t give credit where credit is due. The story and ethics of Mac Miller are not a new concept to hip-hop. We should be better at realizing real as real, and fake for what it is. The digital trail of e-mails speak for themselves, as do the producers who felt they were wronged. We’ve seen this go on for decades, even outlined in classic songs like Black Star’s “Children’s Story.” The producer, or DJ for that matter may be the most important role in hip-hop—without any instrumentals or loops there would be no rapping. Producers are the sound providers, sound controllers, figures who finesse audio. We, as artists and fans, must respect their role in the culture. Aspiring emcees, please take this as a lesson: you’ll get caught “jackin’ old beats and makin’ the dash…”

  • 3xthorough

    they did the job, money came with ease/but one couldnt stop its like he had a disease!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMJ2ZDACFDSMSYE3OEWDDNX7ZA Neal McCarten

      They jacked another, then another. Micheal Jackson, Stevie Wonder. 

  • Mlgadd

    lord finesse was credited as producer on the back cover of the mixtape, where it says “Prod. Lord Finesse”. it was included in the file when i downloaded it 2 years ago anyway.
    i expect more from mass appeal. http://www.2dopeboyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100815-KIDS.jpg

  • jochris flora

    what mlgadd said…
    and the song he took from finesse wasnt even that good. either version.
    I can understand if he took funky technician or something, but it seems yall ae just looking for fodder to add to his lawsuit.
    admit it, you didnt really like him in the first place. But when he’s on shade45 with toca or statik, yall are probably liking that sh!t..

  • Wildcontender

    They did link in the exclusive Datpiff link that was the official place for the release. And theres no mention of Finesse. 

  • hands

    to the writer…  what “code” did he break that you’re speaking of?  did 50 cent credit producers when he jacked shit for mixtapes?  any of those dudes who got big on mixtapes before they blew up and rhymed over other people’s beats…  i don’t remember anyone crediting the producers on their mixtapes.  what about all the freestyles that get posted on blogs by rappers spitting over popular beats… you rarely ever see credit for the producer.  it’s hip hop.  i read somewhere that finesse hadn’t even cleared the sample that he was rhyming over so he’s guilty of the exact same thing that mac miller did.  i understand if you steal a producer’s beat and put it out and don’t pay them then you’re jacking them, but if it’s a song that’s been released by a popular artist and the instrumental is made available online or on the single or whatever, people are gonna rhyme of it.  they might even shoot a video.  they might even launch their career and make money using different beats after they used yours to get attention.  that is hip hop.  and i can’t stand mac miller so i’m not defending him because i’m a fan.  i just think people are reaching.  you can’t sue someone for using something you don’t even own yourself and if they didn’t directly profit off of it then you have absolutely no case.

    • hands

      by the way i just watched that video.  the shit he’s being accused of in that… now that’s fucked up.  i still think lord finesse joint is public domain unless he’s actually getting money.

  • http://twitter.com/kidpoker666 kid poker

    wow a rich kid who BOUGHT PLACEMENTS 6 MONTHS AFTER RAPPING….what a pampered little faggot…mac miller go fvck yourself.